but these labs are known to be 'looser' on QC. Some diamonds are classified as IDEAL cuts by other labs like AGS, IGI, EGL, etc. Unless you are going for a Tiffany, Cartier, Lazarre or something of a premium branded diamond, settle for nothing less than a GIA certified diamond. Go nothing lower than a triple excellent. For me out of the 4Cs, the one thing you should never ever sacrifice is the cut. This post has been edited by mooooot: Sep 18 2015, 01:31 AM As researcher in the story, live in USA with millions time bigger market than Malaysia, the diamond he bought INSTANTLY lost 60% of the value when he try to resell. You will be lucky if your regret doesn't destroy your marriage.

If you keep thinking about 'resell value', it is going to haunt you for the rest of the marriage, especially if you really need the money. If both of you really into something practical, get a simple platinum ring　～1k and put rest of money into honey moon, or some saving deposit. No jewel seller willing to buy back ANY diamond rings, not without hefty discount. The jewellery shop will sweet talk you about the 'diamond forever', but never about resell value. With or without cert, diamond rings hardly fetch 30% of the price you pay. Even 60% of the price is something in your dream when you resell. The world market FLOODED with tons of 1 carat diamonds.ĭiamond rings DOES NOT FETCH resell value, unless yourself or your wife are celebrity.

I am disappointed that I can't even get about RM3500 for a ring and diamond of the same specs as jackson041104 when it is only 2 years since. Anyone gone to Wah Chan recently and got a very good bargain from there? Which Wah Chan outlet did you go and any particular salesman (name) there you dealt with? Ring is additional RM500 from what he told me. And I even told him that Habib is selling their diamond ONLY at RM3360 but still the lowest he can do for diamond ONLY is RM3700. I then told him that two years ago, my 'friend' got the white gold ring and diamond with the exact specs for about RM2700. He brought it down to RM3,800 but it is still too high. Of course, I told the salesman that it is too expensive and ask him to discount. Anyway, I went to Wah Chan and the exact specs sticker price for diamond ONLY is about RM4500. When I was at Habib, I saw the exact specs for the diamond ONLY at RM3360. Actually I am curious, typically by how many % can you haggle down those sticker prices? At those prices, I know there is no point haggling because my budget is no more than RM4K (around RM3.5K actually). Places like Poh Kong have an sticker price of RM6,800 for slightly better specs than the one bought by jackson041104 and a few others even more than RM8K. Yesterday, I went to survey some shops including Poh Kong, Habib, Diamond & Platinum and a few others before going to Wah Chan. I really don't know how this jackson041104 can get it for such a low price. Why stones are not ideally cut in the first place is because it cost more to cut away thereby reducing the carat size.īy the way, I read in another thread that someone by the name of jackson041104 bought a 0.4 carat diamond in white gold ring for RM2550. This is the only part of the 4C that is not determine by nature but by human hands. Every stone can be cut in the most ideal way. If the stone is cut right, you will end up with what a diamond is suppose to do in the first place - shine. To get the most ideal cut, a lot of the original rough stone will be cut away. How it is cut determines how the stone will refract light. This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 9 2014, 06:20 PM Why stones are not ideally cut in the first place is because they want to retain as much stone as possible so they can charge you more for carat weight.

If the stone is cut right, you will end up with what a diamond is suppose to do in the first place - sparkle. But to satisfy your peace of mind, you don't want to buy anything less than SI-2 for clarity, and anything less than I or J for color Nobody around you will be knowledgable enough to tell cut, color and clarity even if you give them 10x loupe. The one thing that is visually prominent is the size of the stone, the bigger the better. Since your budget is low, you want the best bang for your buck. Let me explain about the 4C in practical terms. Go to Selberan for honest to goodness best service Depends on the size of your stone and who you are buying fromĤ. If your budget is big then the order should be cut>size>color>clarityģ. Your money should go towards size>cut>color>clarity.

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